RANCHER FEEDBACK
Here is the feedback regarding Ranchers that have been contacted about Wolves and Livestock. Needless to say, some already don't like the idea of peace.
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mike Wagner" <mike@heartofthewolf.org> View Contact Details View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Ranching Practices That Are Ethical And Effective
To: miba6459@aol.com
Hi Ms. Albrecht,
Although you respect (if you want to call it that) my opinion, you just want to continue the war of murdering Wolves rather than living with them. Although livestock are your livelihood, you could use peaceful effective means to live
with them.
Instead you ignore all this. You don't speak for every rancher, but you speak for those who prefer murder rather than peaceful co-existence. Until you can do this,
I will promote your email address to my cause for peaceful co-existence.
Mike Wagner -- Director and Founder of Heart of the
Wolf Organization, Honor Fallen and Oppressed Wolves
-- and Co-Host of KWF Wolf Conservation, Philip Clonas'
Save The Wolves Foundation and Web of Life
http://www.heartofthewolf.org
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/heartofthewolf
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Wolfconservationists
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Save_The_Wolves_Foundation
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/weboflife
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/HFOW.htm
miba6459@aol.com wrote:
Mr. Wagner,
I appreciate and respect your opinion regarding the treatment of wolves or any wild critter for that matter. I hope that you understand that it is not just wolves that I am wary of. Any animal that is attacking my livestock will be appropriately disposed of. My livestock is my livelihood. Therefore anything attacking them is in turn attacking me. I have only had one instance where I had to eliminate a predator, but it was attacking my stock. I know there are wild dog packs and coyotes in our area, but the rabbits must keep them busy enough that they do not need to eat my sheep. Thus, I leave them alone.
I can not speak for any other farmer, rancher, or herder; but only for myself. Again, I appreciate your opinion, I just may not fully agree. Please do not use my email address again to advertise your cause.
Thank you,
Michelle Albrecht
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mike Wagner" <mike@heartofthewolf.org> View Contact Details View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Ranching Practices That Are Ethical And Effective
To: "GENE KANTACK" <easy4s@msn.com>
Dear sir,
Your contstant hatred and denial of peace will cause this issue to continue.
You didn't even bother to read anything.
Murder is the right term when those like yourself ignore peace and prefer
unwanton violence and destruction.
And the term for your attitude is a sociopathic one. Until you and your
consortium support these methods of peace, you will continue to hear from us.
Mike Wagner -- Director and Founder of Heart of the
Wolf Organization, Honor Fallen and Oppressed Wolves
-- and Co-Host of KWF Wolf Conservation, Philip Clonas'
Save The Wolves Foundation and Web of Life
http://www.heartofthewolf.org
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/heartofthewolf
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Wolfconservationists
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Save_The_Wolves_Foundation
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/weboflife
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/HFOW.htm
GENE KANTACK <easy4s@msn.com> wrote:
Dear sir:
Please don't write me again. We are far apart on the benefits of killer wolves. They make a very nice rug anf we will try our best to see that as many as possible get that way.
Murder is the wrong term by a long shot. Try extermination or just rewards as a substitute for this fawn and calf killer.
Gene Kantack
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Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:18 AM
Subject: Ranching Practices That Are Ethical And Effective
Dear Ranching Companies and Organizations,
My name is Mike Wagner and I am the Founder
and Director of the Heart of the Wolf
Organization.
I am here writing a letter in regards to Wolves.
I took the time to merticulously find as
many organizations, companies within the states
that Wolves in them.
Many people fear and hate them, and the issue
of Wolves in Livestock issues comes up alot.
People fear what they don't understand that
fear leads to hate, prejudice, racism and murder.
Wolves are living beings too, beings that
have been oppressed, slaughtered and managed
by humans.
They struggle to survive among humans that
nearly have dominated almost every square inch
of the world.
Livestock issues with Wolves is a big issue,
especially in Wolf Recovery. Maybe you have
dealt with it or heard about it, or maybe not.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services, in addition
to the Department of Natural Resources, and APHIS
Wildlife Services, hide much information.
They deny it too, and prefer to murder Wolves rather
than showing the truth.
Wolves do not have to be murdered in livestock
issues. And they hide and deny this.
Programs called Predator Friendly Ranching,
which employs the use of Non-Lethal Methods only
have been scientifically been proven to work
effectively.
Here are some articles and links for them that
first show the proof of it and it's effectiveness.
'Wolf Friendly Beef'
http://www.acfnewsource.org/environment/wolf_friendly_beef.html
'She wins friends for lions, wolves and bears'
http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=15913
'Predator Friendly Wool'
http://www.loe.org/shows/shows.htm?programID=97-P13-00002#feature2
'Some ranchers see 'predator friendly' as selling point with consumers'
http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/07/17/news/regional/1aee40fb0504f55687256ed4005f50ec.txt
'CMU RESEARCHERS TEST LIVESTOCK GUARD DOGS ON U.P. FARMS'
http://www.news.cmich.edu/archived/index.asp?path=search&id=669
'Shepherd finds wolf remedy in European guard dogs'
http://www.sooeveningnews.com/articles/2005/07/25/news/news291.txt
'Killing wolves doesn't protect livestock'
http://www.physorg.com/news63380621.html
'Crying wolf over predator attacks'
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996428
Here are also articles proving that Wolves are not a threat to Mankind.
'Wolves are not a threat'
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050522/SPORTS/505220331/1006
'Report: Rural Families Should Fear Dogs, Not Wolves'
http://www.timberwolfinformation.org/info/archieve/newspapers/viewnews.cfm?ID=2581
One of the main components of Predator Friendly Ranching is the use of Livestock
Protection Dogs. Here are several links to books that detail all about them
how they can be used to prevent livestock depredations without the murdering
of Wolves. These books are supported and used by the Cheetah Conservation Fund
which also supports Non-Lethal Methods 100%. The purchase of these books supports
the raising of an Anatolian Shepard Dog to protect livestock.
http://anatoliandog.org/anatolianbook-beauchamp.htm#CCF
http://anatoliandog.org/anatolianbook-lpd.htm
The Holders and Thirteen Mile Lamb and Wool Company which are in the articles
above use these methods and are highly successful.
If you are interested in contacting them here are their contact information below.
THIRTEEN MILE LAMB & WOOL COMPANY
13000 Springhill Road
Belgrade, Montana 59714
Tel. (406) 388-4945
Wool Mill (406) 388-1956
becky@lambandwool.com
http://www.lambandwool.com/
Will Holder Ervin's Grassfed Beef
Phone: 928-428-0033
Fax: 928-428-0033
If you would like to learn about Wolves, what they really are about, I encourage
you to go to these links below. One is a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) about Wolves.
There are links with great books and films to get educated about Wolves.
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/WolfFAQ.htm
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/Books.htm
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/Films.htm
Wolves continue to be a hated species. The USFWS, DNR and APHI-WS, don't do
their ultimate job of getting Humans to live with them peacefully. Since they won't
promote peaceful means for you to exist with them, this letter is one way of doing this.
I know the Ranching community doesn't hold much love for Wolves, but if
peaceful solutions aren't reached, war will keep continuing with Wolves murdered
every week by these government agencies and livestock will die because they won't promote
or help ranchers convert over to peaceful means to prevent conflict. Murder begets murder
and we cannot let this continue.
I hope you will do the right thing by looking at these methods and taking part in peace
between Humans and Wolves.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter.
Mike Wagner -- Director and Founder of Heart of the
Wolf Organization, Honor Fallen and Oppressed Wolves
-- and Co-Host of KWF Wolf Conservation, Philip Clonas'
Save The Wolves Foundation and Web of Life
http://www.heartofthewolf.org
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/heartofthewolf
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Wolfconservationists
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Save_The_Wolves_Foundation
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/weboflife
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/HFOW.htm